4As Talent Talks is a series of in-depth conversations with industry leaders committed to creating inclusive and equitable workplaces in marketing, advertising and communications. Led by 4As EVP of Talent, Equity and Learning Solutions Cathy Chan Butler, these discussions focus on identifying challenges, actionable solutions and looking to the future.
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Episode #6 | Nurturing the Next Generation: Investing in Early Career Talent | May 2025
This episode focuses on the importance of investing in early career talent in the advertising industry. David Peña, Early Careers Recruiter, RPA Advertising shared his passionate perspective on why agencies must support emerging professionals, highlighting challenges rising talent faces and the potential benefits of robust early career programs. He emphasized that investing in the next generation is not just about hiring, but about ensuring the long-term sustainability, innovation and cultural relevance of the advertising industry. Don’t miss his hot take!
Episode #5 | Disability as a Catalyst for Creative Innovation | April 2025
In this episode, Josh Loebner, Global Head of Inclusive Design at VML discusses disability inclusion in advertising. Learn how creativity, accessibility and representation can transform brand experiences. Josh shares his inspiring journey from forestry to becoming a pioneering voice in inclusive design, examining innovative approaches like Stranger Things’ creative captions and strategies for making advertising more welcoming for people with disabilities.
Episode #4 | Amplifying LGBTQ+ Creativity, Representation and Voice | Graham Nolan, Do the WeRQ | December 2024
This episode explores Do the WeRQ’s efforts to foster a more inclusive and equitable advertising and marketing industry. Graham Nolan discusses the journey that led him to create Do the WeRQ, the first LGBTQ+ community for advertising and marketing professionals in the US to promote LGBTQ+ creativity, representation and voice in the industry, the importance of employee resource groups (ERGs) and insights from research on the role of LGBTQ+ ERGs.
Episode #3 | The State of DEI in the Industry | Kimeko McCoy, Digiday | November 2024
In this episode featuring award winning journalist and podcast host Kimeko McCoy, we dive into her point of view on the the evolving role of media in documenting and shaping DEI conversations, explore the importance of vulnerability and honesty in storytelling and the need for patience and persistence in advancing DEI efforts.
Episode #2 | Cultivating Inclusive Workplaces for People with Learning and Thinking Differences | Deb Wilson, Understood | October 2024
This episode dives into inclusion and equity for neurodivergent talent providing valuable insights into inclusive design, what fostering a culture of proactive inclusion could look like, challenges, solutions, tools, interventions and what the future of inclusive work and workplaces looks like.
Episode #1 | Employee Agency and the Future of Talent | Anthea Hoyle. United Minds | September 2024
This episode explores insights from United Minds’ Employees Rising study and the concept of “employee agency” with Managing Director Anthea Hoyle. United Minds, part of the Weber Shandwick Collective, is a global management consultancy that specializes in transformation.
Stay tuned for the next episode!
